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One fatal flaw

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#1 Valkyria

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:14 AM

This team peaked at a rating of 1500 flat on the Reborn server in March. Not bad. Yet it has one insurmountable weakness - a vulnerability so severe that winning becomes impossible. Can you spot it?

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Poseidon (Politoed) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Scald


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Pegasus (Latias) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Dragon Pulse
- Substitute


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Hephaestus (Ferrothorn) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Swords Dance
- Spikes
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip


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Hermes (Jirachi) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 194 SAtk / 64 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Calm Mind
- Energy Ball


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Hera (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Softboiled
- Heal Bell
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave


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The Kraken (Tentacruel) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect



I first became aware of the weakness during a +2, -30 variation match against a relatively inexperienced player. I rapidly set up rain and subbed up Jirachi on his Roserade. From there, Jirachi proceeded to accumulate Calm Minds and bulldoze through his team with serene grace Thunders. With my entire team facing his last remaining pokemon, nothing in the metagame could stop me from winning.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:21 AM

Spikes? LOL Those would've killed shedinja outright XD
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:05 AM

It's quite funny that his entire team cant hit a shedinja, however the spikes he said he laid should've killed it straight away, unless the actually gave him HP EVs, but thats unlikely. but even then, you could've stalled him out with chansey and the rest, untill he had to struggle...
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:46 AM

I'm sorry, but did you just say that Shedinja will live through Spikes with HP EVs?

LOL, sir, you are incorrect.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:07 AM

Unless he immediately switched in jirachi and set it up, and swept until only shedinja was left.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

spikes take a certain % of the pokemons HP as long as it doesn't have 1, any poke will survive when put in on 100% health
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:43 AM

Shedinja always has 1 hp. Always. No amount of HP EVs will alter that.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:51 AM

Actually, doesn't Ferrothorn kill Shedninja? *cough* Iron Barbs *cough* Unless if the Ferrothorn gets its ability negated or mummyfied.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:40 AM

Actually, doesn't Ferrothorn kill Shedninja? *cough* Iron Barbs *cough* Unless if the Ferrothorn gets its ability negated or mummyfied.


I'm guessing Will-O-Wisp and an actual non-contact move on shedinja... though just what that move is escapes me.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 05:56 AM

Errr... Buddy. Toxic. You can beat Shedinja with any status that deals damage. Plus toxic spikes and spikes would also killed it.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 06:08 AM

Seems like a very generic rain team, so not much I can say.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:50 PM

Only thing I can think of is that Shedinja was sashed. Only way it could survive spikes. Just carry Toxic/WoW or a Fire/Ghost/Dark move.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:06 PM

I thought hazards aren't affected by sash.
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